{"id":939,"date":"2020-03-25T12:20:50","date_gmt":"2020-03-25T11:20:50","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.investguru.cz\/cs\/?p=939"},"modified":"2020-03-26T13:50:51","modified_gmt":"2020-03-26T12:50:51","slug":"pioneer-fond-po-20-letech","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.investguru.cz\/cs\/pioneer-fond-po-20-letech\/","title":{"rendered":"Investoval jsem do Pioneer fondu a po 20 letech je ze 250 tis\u00edc jen 146! Jak je to mo\u017en\u00e9?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Dostal jsem tuto ot\u00e1zku od Ji\u0159\u00edho, se kter\u00fdm jsem se \u201epotkal\u201d u\u017e p\u0159ed 20 lety&#8230;.<\/p>\n<p><em>V roce 2000 jsem investoval <\/em><strong><em>250 tis. K\u010d<\/em><\/strong><em> do z m\u00e9ho pohledu spolehliv\u00e9ho fondu Pioneer European Equity\u00a0\u010d\u00edslo 102,\u00a0jemu\u017e jste v t\u00e9 dob\u011b \u0161\u00e9foval. <\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>Bez jak\u00fdchkoliv zm\u011bn z m\u00e9 strany ( to je jist\u011b chyba investora ). Jeho\u017e aktu\u00e1ln\u00ed hodnota je pouze <\/em><strong><em>146 tis. K\u010d<\/em><\/strong><em>\u00a0<\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong><em>Jak je to mo\u017en\u00e9 ??<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Samoz\u0159ejm\u011b m\u011b mrz\u00ed, \u017ee Ji\u0159\u00edmu investice do Pioneer European Equity nevy\u0161la. Proto\u017ee nezn\u00e1m detailn\u011b Ji\u0159\u00edho portfolio, vedlo m\u011b to k n\u00e1sleduj\u00edc\u00edmu zamy\u0161len\u00ed.<\/p>\n<p>I moje mamka toti\u017e investovala do stejn\u00e9ho fondu a o cca 5-6 let pozd\u011bji prodala se ztr\u00e1tou :-(.<\/p>\n<p>A \u0159eknu V\u00e1m, co jsme objevili, kdy\u017e jsme to zp\u011btn\u011b prob\u00edrali spolu s n\u00ed:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Investovala proto, \u017ee vid\u011bla v novin\u00e1ch historickou v\u00fdkonnost, kter\u00e1 byla za posledn\u00edch 12 m\u011bs\u00edc\u016f dvoucifern\u00e1. Rozhodla se k n\u00e1kupu na z\u00e1klad\u011b pozitivn\u00edch emoc\u00ed, novinov\u00fdch titulk\u016f, nem\u011bla pl\u00e1n ani strategii, ani n\u00e1kup s nik\u00fdm nediskutovala.<\/li>\n<li>Investovala bez finan\u010dn\u00edho\/investi\u010dn\u00edho pl\u00e1nu, \u0161lo o jej\u00ed jedinou finan\u010dn\u00ed investici. M\u011bla ale je\u0161t\u011b stavebn\u00ed spo\u0159en\u00ed a penzijn\u00edho p\u0159ipoji\u0161t\u011bn\u00ed, a d\u00edky t\u011bmto produkt\u016fm v\u00fdsledek cel\u00e9ho jej\u00edho portfolia byl lep\u0161\u00ed ne\u017e ztr\u00e1ta na jednom produktu. P\u0159esto by b\u00fdvalo bylo lep\u0161\u00ed, kdyby investici d\u011blala v souladu s pl\u00e1nem, v men\u0161\u00edm objemu.<\/li>\n<li>Z hlediska finan\u010dn\u00edch produkt\u016f m\u011bla produkt jen jedin\u00fd. D\u00edky tomu j\u00ed v portfoliu chyb\u011bla diverzifikace do dal\u0161\u00edch typ\u016f investi\u010dn\u00edch produkt\u016f, dal\u0161\u00edch fond\u016f a v\u00edce spr\u00e1vc\u016f.<\/li>\n<li>Produkt v dob\u011b n\u00e1kupu (mamka kupovala skoro za nejvy\u0161\u0161\u00ed cenu v b\u0159eznu 2000) pat\u0159il mezi hlavn\u00ed a velk\u00e9 produkty americk\u00e9 skupiny Pioneer (\u0161\u00e9foval jsem v \u010cR) a proto jsem nem\u011bl probl\u00e9m ho doporu\u010dovat na\u0161im distributor\u016fm a klient\u016fm i v \u010cR. Plat\u00ed, \u017ee nejv\u011bt\u0161\u00edm produkt\u016fm se firmy v\u011bnuj\u00ed a d\u00e1vaj\u00ed na n\u011b v\u011bt\u0161\u00ed pozor ne\u017e na produkty mal\u00e9.<\/li>\n<li>Probl\u00e9m nastal v roce 2002, kdy\u017e byla skupina Pioneer koupena italskou Unicredit. Rodinn\u00e1 firma s cca 1.500 zam\u011bstnanci celosv\u011btov\u011b najednou za\u010dala p\u016fsobit ve skupin\u011b, kter\u00e1 m\u011bla 60.000 zam\u011bstnanc\u016f jenom v It\u00e1lii. Fondov\u00fd byznys se stal jen sou\u010d\u00e1st\u00ed bankovn\u00edho byznysu a celkov\u011b se dramaticky zm\u011bnil zp\u016fsob pr\u00e1ce &#8211; z proaktivn\u00edho americk\u00e9ho \u0159\u00edzen\u00ed se stalo, z m\u00e9ho pohledu t\u011b\u017ekop\u00e1dn\u00e9 \u0159\u00edzen\u00ed korporace, a nam\u00edsto toho, abychom mohli jednat, jsme museli \u010dekat, a\u017e n\u00e1m v\u011bci schv\u00e1l\u00ed v It\u00e1lii. Tam podle m\u011b za\u010daly probl\u00e9my fondu.<\/li>\n<li>J\u00e1 jsem ukon\u010dil p\u016fsoben\u00ed v Pioneer ke konci roku 2002 a u\u017e jen zpovzd\u00e1l\u00ed jsem sledoval n\u00e1sledn\u00e9 zm\u011bny, kter\u00e9 m\u011b o p\u00e1r let pozd\u011bji vedly k tomu, \u017ee jsem mamce \u0159ekl, aby se ztr\u00e1tou prodala. Pioneer European Equity p\u0159estal b\u00fdt preferovan\u00fdm produktem v r\u00e1mci nov\u00e9 Pioneer Unicredit skupiny. Zm\u011bnil se mu portfolio mana\u017eer. Zmen\u0161il se objem pen\u011bz v jeho spr\u00e1v\u011b a z pohledu poradce &#8211; kter\u00fdm jsem od roku 2003 ve sv\u00e9 firm\u011b &#8211; jsem investici vyhodnotil jako nad\u00e1le neperspektivn\u00ed.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Tolik alespo\u0148 p\u00e1r slov k Pioneer European Equity.<\/p>\n<p>Dovolte ale je\u0161t\u011b p\u00e1r slov nav\u00edc.<\/p>\n<p>Pr\u00e1v\u011b kv\u016fli zku\u0161enosti maj\u00ed mamky a dal\u0161\u00edch lid\u00ed (jako je Ji\u0159\u00ed), jsem se rozhodl, \u017ee chci d\u011blat investi\u010dn\u00ed poradenstv\u00ed a vymyslet, jak se vyhnout tomu, co jste za\u017eili.<\/p>\n<p>V p\u0159\u00edpad\u011b m\u00e9 mamky byl nejv\u011bt\u0161\u00edm d\u016fvodem, pro\u010d p\u0159i\u0161la o pen\u00edze, toti\u017e to, \u017ee nem\u011bla v p\u0159em\u00fd\u0161len\u00ed o investic\u00edch \u017e\u00e1dn\u00fd syst\u00e9m.<\/p>\n<p>Proto od za\u010d\u00e1tku poradenstv\u00ed d\u011bl\u00e1me pl\u00e1ny pro klienty, upozor\u0148ujeme na nebezpe\u010d\u00ed pozitivn\u00edch i negativn\u00edch emoc\u00ed, doporu\u010dujeme osv\u011bd\u010denou alokaci a d\u016fslednou diverzifikaci a pe\u010dliv\u011b systematicky vyb\u00edr\u00e1me produkty.<\/p>\n<p>A pokud se situace v nich zm\u011bn\u00ed, nem\u00e1me probl\u00e9m je prodat a koupit jin\u00e9.<\/p>\n<p>Na\u0161e poplatky za poradenstv\u00ed nepoch\u00e1z\u00ed ze vstupn\u00edch poplatk\u016f (kter\u00e9 Ji\u0159\u00ed, m\u00e1 mamka a tis\u00edce dal\u0161\u00ed tak\u00e9 platili, a kter\u00e9 \u0161ly cel\u00e9 tomu, kdo produkt prodal chcete-li l\u00edbiv\u011b \u201edoporu\u010dil\u201d), ale n\u00e1m klienti plat\u00ed za na\u0161e slu\u017eby nap\u0159\u00edmo a p\u0159ev\u00e1\u017en\u011b ze zisku, kter\u00fd jim p\u0159ineseme.<\/p>\n<p>Tak u\u017e ve <a href=\"https:\/\/www.fichtner.cz\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener nofollow noreferrer\">Fichtner s.r.o.<\/a> 17 let pracujeme na tom, abychom se s klienty probl\u00e9m\u016fm vyh\u00fdbali nebo z nich v\u010das \u201eutekli\u201d.<\/p>\n<p>Tis\u00edce a des\u00edtky tis\u00edc lid\u00ed si kupuj\u00ed investi\u010dn\u00ed produkty a rozhoduj\u00ed se p\u0159itom \u010dasto pouze na z\u00e1klad\u011b doporu\u010den\u00ed, kter\u00e9 je motivov\u00e1no okam\u017eit\u00fdm ziskem a nikoliv dlouhodobou spoluprac\u00ed.<\/p>\n<p>P\u0159itom kdyby v\u011bnovali p\u00e1r minut ov\u011b\u0159en\u00fdm princip\u016fm, mohly by m\u00edt jejich investice z\u00e1sadn\u00ed pozitivn\u00ed vliv na jejich \u017eivoty.<\/p>\n<p>Informace tu jsou, a\u0165 od n\u00e1s, od ostatn\u00edch poradc\u016f, nebo od bank, sta\u010d\u00ed se po nich jen nat\u00e1hnout a vybrat pro sebe ty spr\u00e1vn\u00e9.<\/p>\n<p>Pokud zat\u00edm nem\u00e1te syst\u00e9m, jak nad investicemi p\u0159em\u00fd\u0161let, pod\u00edvejte se zdarma na 4d\u00edln\u00fd tr\u00e9nink <a href=\"https:\/\/www.investguru.cz\/cs\/trenink\/\">InvestGuru<\/a>. A pokud chcete investovat, vstupte do programu InvestGuru 2020.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Jen pozor! Sledov\u00e1n\u00ed tohoto tr\u00e9ninku v\u00e1s m\u016f\u017ee p\u0159ipravit o sp\u00e1nek.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Jarom\u00edr toti\u017e po zhl\u00e9dnut\u00ed napsal: <em>3. video mi nasadilo do hlavy hodn\u011b brouk\u016f, kter\u00e9 mi nedali pokoj ani p\u0159i us\u00edn\u00e1n\u00ed. Popravd\u011b, zat\u00edm \u017e\u00e1dn\u00e1 jin\u00e1 edukativn\u00ed videa m\u011b nedonutila tolik p\u0159em\u00fd\u0161let a zapojit i kreativitu.<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>V b\u0159eznu 2020 jsem dostal dotaz p\u0159\u00edmo na t\u011blo&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":941,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_active":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_note":"","_monsterinsights_sitenote_category":0,"_genesis_hide_title":false,"_genesis_hide_breadcrumbs":false,"_genesis_hide_singular_image":false,"_genesis_hide_footer_widgets":false,"_genesis_custom_body_class":"","_genesis_custom_post_class":"","_genesis_layout":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v22.2 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>Investoval jsem do Pioneer fondu a po 20 letech je ze 250 tis\u00edc jen 146! 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